{"id":7087,"date":"2016-03-05T13:10:00","date_gmt":"2016-03-05T21:10:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/cosmologyscience.com\/cosblog\/?p=7087"},"modified":"2018-08-01T20:15:29","modified_gmt":"2018-08-02T03:15:29","slug":"new-galaxy-redshift-distance-record-z11-seriously-threatens-big-bang-models","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/cosmologyscience.com\/cosblog\/new-galaxy-redshift-distance-record-z11-seriously-threatens-big-bang-models\/","title":{"rendered":"New Galaxy Redshift Distance Record (z=11) Seriously Threatens Big Bang models"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"attachment_7090\" style=\"width: 436px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><a href=\"http:\/\/arxiv.org\/abs\/1603.00461\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-7090\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-7090\" class=\"wp-image-7090\" src=\"http:\/\/cosmologyscience.com\/cosblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Cos-FurthestGalaxy-300x123.jpg\" alt=\"Furthest Galaxy, GN-z11, at Redshift of 11.1\" width=\"426\" height=\"174\" srcset=\"https:\/\/cosmologyscience.com\/cosblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Cos-FurthestGalaxy-300x123.jpg 300w, https:\/\/cosmologyscience.com\/cosblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Cos-FurthestGalaxy.jpg 733w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 426px) 100vw, 426px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-7090\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Furthest Galaxy, GN-z11, at Redshift of 11.1<\/p><\/div>\n<p>A new <strong>record distance to a huge galaxy<\/strong> named <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/GN-z11\">GN-z11<\/a> has been observed and measured. It is <strong>dramatically farther<\/strong> than the previous distance holder. The constantly amazing <a href=\"https:\/\/www.spacetelescope.org\/news\/heic1604\/\">Hubble Space telescope measured its distance spectroscopically<\/a> at a<strong> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.CosmologyScience.com\/glossary.htm#Redshift\">Spectral line Redshift<\/a> of 11.1.<\/strong><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>\u201cWe\u2019ve taken a major step back in time, beyond what we\u2019d ever expected to be able to do with Hubble. We managed to look back in time to measure the distance to a galaxy when the Universe was only three percent of its current age.\u201d<\/strong> &#8211; <strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.astro.yale.edu\/poesch\/\">Pascal Oesch<\/a><\/strong>, lead paper author.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><!--more-->Previous to this discovery, the furthest measured galaxy, <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/EGSY8p7\">EGSY8p7<\/a>, is at a redshift of \u201conly\u201d z=8.68.<\/p>\n<p>Due to its large <a href=\"http:\/\/www.cosmologyscience.com\/glossary.htm#Redshift\">spectral line redshift<\/a>, researchers calculate that this large (<strong>billion solar masses<\/strong>) galaxy is being viewed <strong>only 400 million years after <\/strong> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.cosmologyscience.com\/glossary.htm#BigBang\"><strong>Big Bang<\/strong><\/a><strong>; . . . which presents a major set of headaches for <\/strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.cosmologyscience.com\/glossary.htm#BigBang\"><strong>Big Bang<\/strong><\/a><strong>.<\/strong><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>\u201cIt\u2019s amazing that a galaxy so massive existed only 200 million to 300 million years after the very first stars started to form. It takes really fast growth, producing stars at a huge rate, to have formed a galaxy that is a billion solar masses so soon,\u201d <\/strong>explains <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ucolick.org\/~board\/faculty\/illingworth.html\"><strong>Garth Illingworth<\/strong> of the University of California, Santa Cruz and Lick Observatory<\/a>, one of the paper&#8217;s co-authors.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<h3><strong>Commentary :<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p>Because <a href=\"http:\/\/www.cosmologyscience.com\/glossary.htm#LCDM\">Big Bang (LCDM)<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.cosmologyscience.com\/glossary.htm#Homogenous\">requires matter to be so smoothly distributed<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/api.viglink.com\/api\/click?format=go&amp;jsonp=vglnk_14668253089987&amp;key=9b4efad421c8b103b2c94b796db973b0&amp;libId=ipuljsfb01013oyg000DA1ww3ourzd9u8t&amp;subId=ff5f8da38930d6427581fdca927b49c7&amp;loc=http%3A%2F%2Fcosmologyscience.com%2Fcosblog%2Fwp-admin%2Fpost.php%3Fpost%3D7087%26action%3Dedit&amp;v=1&amp;out=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.space.com%2F11386-galaxies-formation-big-bang-hubble-telescope.html&amp;title=Edit%20Post%20%E2%80%B9%20Cosmology%20Science%20by%20David%20Dilworth%20%E2%80%94%20WordPress&amp;txt=space.com%2F11386-galaxies-formation-big-bang-hubble-telescope\">it takes considerable time to create stars, and then for those stars to gather into a galaxy. <\/a><\/p>\n<p>According to Big Bang the first atoms were created some 380 thousand years after universe start up, and until recently, most of us believed the first star began shining about 400 million years later. (1)<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_7142\" style=\"width: 447px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><a href=\"http:\/\/cosmologyscience.com\/cosblog\/new-galaxy-redshift-distance-record-z11-seriously-threatens-big-bang-models\/bigbangearlylight_pic624\/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-7142\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-7142\" class=\" wp-image-7142\" src=\"http:\/\/cosmologyscience.com\/cosblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/BigBangEarlyLight_pic624-300x123.gif\" alt=\" European Space Agency's updated Big Bang Timeline showing First Light and Stars (credit BBC)\" width=\"437\" height=\"179\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-7142\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">European Space Agency&#8217;s updated Big Bang Timeline showing First Light and Stars (credit BBC)<\/p><\/div>\n<p>However, leading researchers <a href=\"http:\/\/phys.org\/news\/2015-02-mystery-billion-years-universe.html\">European Space Agency&#8217;s PLANCK mission<\/a> updated the Big Bang Timeline in 2015 by reporting <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Chronology_of_the_universe#Star_formation\">the first generation of stars did not light up until some 560 million years after the Big Bang<\/a>.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>This new extraordinarily, unexpectedly distant galaxy, GN-z11, raises a calamitous, and likely fatal problem for Big Bang. That&#8217;s because there is <strong>no reasonable way to explain the existence of a huge, <em>complete galaxy <\/em><\/strong>(not the mere starting formation of a galaxy)<strong> in the \u201cblink of an eye.\u201d Only ~ 400 million years after<\/strong> <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Recombination_(cosmology)\">the first atoms were created<\/a>. (For reference it was &#8220;only&#8221; 400 million years ago when Earth&#8217;s first creatures left the ocean and evolved into dinosaurs.)<\/p>\n<p>The impossible part is that this <b>gigantic, completely formed galaxy <\/b>we can see today existed <em><strong>160 million years BEFORE Big Bang says the first stars lit up !<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<p>So we&#8217;re supposed to believe it took <strong>400 thousand<\/strong> years to make the first atoms, <strong>560 million years<\/strong> (roughly 1,200 times as long) <strong>to make the first stars<\/strong>, but a <strong>galaxy\u00a0 existed<\/strong> <strong>~30 percent earlier than the first stars; a huge, billion-solar-mass, viable, coherent galaxy existed ?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>. . . Ok . . .<\/p>\n<p>This also is a big problem for the &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.CosmologyScience.com\/glossary.htm#CMR\">cosmic microwave background<\/a>&#8221; idea because <b><u><i>all <\/i><\/u><\/b>the\u00a0 <b>cosmic microwave radiation <\/b>calculated as being &#8220;background&#8221; &#8211; <b>had to have been been emitted at the same time as the light was emitted from the huge galaxy <\/b><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/GN-z11\">GN-z11<\/a>\u00a0!<\/p>\n<p>So much for &#8220;Precision cosmology.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>This appears to expose a disastrous flaw with <a href=\"http:\/\/www.CosmologyScience.com\/glossary.htm#BigBang\">Big Bang<\/a> and that the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.cosmologyscience.com\/glossary.htm#Conject\">conjec<\/a><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.cosmologyscience.com\/glossary.htm#Conject\">ture<\/a> needs, at the very least, a serious <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Reboot_(fiction)\">re-boot<\/a>.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>What do you think ?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"># \u00a0#\u00a0 #<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">Notes:<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">(1)\u00a0 NASA&#8217;s <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><em><strong>Old<\/strong><\/em><\/span> Big Bang Timeline.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_7132\" style=\"width: 726px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><a href=\"http:\/\/cosmologyscience.com\/cosblog\/new-galaxy-redshift-distance-record-z11-seriously-threatens-big-bang-models\/bigbangtimeline_no_wmap\/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-7132\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-7132\" class=\"wp-image-7132\" src=\"https:\/\/upload.wikimedia.org\/wikipedia\/commons\/thumb\/6\/6f\/CMB_Timeline300_no_WMAP.jpg\/640px-CMB_Timeline300_no_WMAP.jpg\" alt=\"NASA's Big Bang Timeline. Note the first stars are only forming at 400 million years (this graphic was made prior to the PLANCK results), yet this newly found galaxy is already a billion solar masses strong. (Credit Wikipedia + NASA\/WMAP Science Team)\" width=\"716\" height=\"465\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-7132\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Note the first stars are only forming at 400 million years (this graphic was made prior to the PLANCK results indicating the first stars didn&#8217;t light up until 560 million years). Yet at 400 million years ago this newly found GN-z11 is already a billion solar masses strong. (Credit Wikipedia + NASA\/WMAP Science Team)<\/p><\/div>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.spacetelescope.org\/news\/heic1604\/\">Hubble Space Telescope News &#8212; &#8220;Hubble breaks cosmic distance record&#8221;<\/a> March 3, 2016<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/ Timeline_of_the_Big_Bang\">Big Bang Timeline, Wikipedia<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Preprint paper &#8220;<strong><a href=\"http:\/\/arxiv.org\/abs\/1603.00461\">A Remarkably Luminous Galaxy at z=11.1 Measured with Hubble Space Telescope Grism Spectroscopy<\/a><\/strong>&#8220;by <strong>Pascal Oesch<\/strong> et al., March 2016<\/p>\n<p>Thanks to <a href=\"http:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20160421054203\/http:\/\/www.angelfire.com\/az\/BIGBANGisWRONG\/index.html\">John Kierein<\/a> for alerting me to this research.<\/p>\n<p>The last part of the galaxy&#8217;s name, GN-z11, as you might have guessed, reflects its <a href=\"http:\/\/www.cosmologyscience.com\/glossary.htm#Redshift\">redshift<\/a> number, and &#8220;z&#8221; is shorthand for <a href=\"http:\/\/www.cosmologyscience.com\/glossary.htm#Redshift\">spectral line redshift<\/a> in Cosmology.<\/p>\n<p>An interesting Book putting this in perspective is available at Amazon:<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" style=\"width: 120px; height: 240px;\" src=\"\/\/ws-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/widgets\/q?ServiceVersion=20070822&amp;OneJS=1&amp;Operation=GetAdHtml&amp;MarketPlace=US&amp;source=ss&amp;ref=ss_til&amp;ad_type=product_link&amp;tracking_id=dilwosinspila-20&amp;marketplace=amazon&amp;region=US&amp;placement=B00007H24F&amp;asins=B00007H24F&amp;linkId=BPJUGAPVGQIC5VZS&amp;show_border=true&amp;link_opens_in_new_window=true\" width=\"300\" height=\"150\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\" align=\"left\"><br \/>\n<\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>The Poster below (at Amazon) is of a previous record distance galaxy.<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" style=\"width: 120px; height: 240px;\" src=\"\/\/ws-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/widgets\/q?ServiceVersion=20070822&amp;OneJS=1&amp;Operation=GetAdHtml&amp;MarketPlace=US&amp;source=ss&amp;ref=ss_til&amp;ad_type=product_link&amp;tracking_id=dilwosinspila-20&amp;marketplace=amazon&amp;region=US&amp;placement=B00MSOWIVK&amp;asins=B00MSOWIVK&amp;linkId=LX3EYM6K5GOTJ7XM&amp;show_border=true&amp;link_opens_in_new_window=true\" width=\"300\" height=\"150\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\" align=\"right\"><br \/>\n<\/iframe><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A new record distance to a huge galaxy named GN-z11 has been observed and measured. It is dramatically farther than the previous distance holder. The constantly amazing Hubble Space telescope measured its distance spectroscopically at a Spectral line Redshift of &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/cosmologyscience.com\/cosblog\/new-galaxy-redshift-distance-record-z11-seriously-threatens-big-bang-models\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"iawp_total_views":7,"footnotes":"","_links_to":"","_links_to_target":""},"categories":[44,24,4,7,35,17,28,3,47,33],"tags":[67,336,380,338,342,379,236,263,378,343,335],"class_list":["post-7087","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-analysis","category-basic-astrophysics","category-big-bang","category-distance-measuring","category-dynamics","category-news","category-observations-change-ideas","category-redshift","category-research","category-universe-age","tag-big-bang","tag-decoupling-era","tag-earliest-galaxy","tag-galaxy-distance-record","tag-galaxy-formation","tag-gn-z11","tag-hubble-space-telescope","tag-measuring-distances","tag-redshift-record","tag-star-formation","tag-yale-university"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/cosmologyscience.com\/cosblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/7087","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/cosmologyscience.com\/cosblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/cosmologyscience.com\/cosblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/cosmologyscience.com\/cosblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/cosmologyscience.com\/cosblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=7087"}],"version-history":[{"count":5,"href":"https:\/\/cosmologyscience.com\/cosblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/7087\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":7494,"href":"https:\/\/cosmologyscience.com\/cosblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/7087\/revisions\/7494"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/cosmologyscience.com\/cosblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=7087"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/cosmologyscience.com\/cosblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=7087"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/cosmologyscience.com\/cosblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=7087"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}