{"id":3071,"date":"2011-07-17T12:14:50","date_gmt":"2011-07-17T19:14:50","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/cosmologyscience.com\/cosblog\/?p=3071"},"modified":"2025-05-16T07:42:54","modified_gmt":"2025-05-16T14:42:54","slug":"ethan-siegel-makes-science-errors-only-corrects-one","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/cosmologyscience.com\/cosblog\/ethan-siegel-makes-science-errors-only-corrects-one\/","title":{"rendered":"Ethan Siegel Makes Science Errors, Corrects One"},"content":{"rendered":"<blockquote><p><strong>(Update: July 20, 2011 &#8211; Today Mr. Siegel <a href=\"http:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20120117101832\/http:\/\/scienceblogs.com\/startswithabang\/2011\/06\/defining_the_big_bang.php\">corrected his article<\/a> where it had wrongly claimed <a href=\"http:\/\/cosmologyscience.com\/cosblog\/iau-not-interested-in-big-bang\/\">my article had quoted Professor P.J.E. Peebles &#8220;out of context.&#8221;<\/a>)<\/strong><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><strong>While Ethan Siegel generally does a good job explaining mainstream cosmology&#8217;s &#8220;standard model,&#8221; he recently wrote a <a href=\"http:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20120117101832\/http:\/\/scienceblogs.com\/startswithabang\/2011\/06\/defining_the_big_bang.php\">flawed critique<\/a> of an article of mine &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/cosmologyscience.com\/cosblog\/iau-not-interested-in-big-bang\/\">International Astronomical Union has no Definition for Big Bang<\/a>.&#8221; This <a href=\"http:\/\/cosmologyscience.com\/cosblog\/big-bangs-inadequate-definition-disputed\/\">critique included a number of science errors<\/a>.<br \/>\n<!--more--><br \/>\nOn June 16, 2011 I wrote the following courteous note as a comment to his blog critique asking for him to correct only one of the errors &#8212; <\/strong><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;Thank you for your interest in my article explaining Big Bang\u2019s lack of an adequate scientific definition and hypothesis (titled \u201c<a href=\"http:\/\/cosmologyscience.com\/cosblog\/iau-not-interested-in-big-bang\/\">International Astronomical Union has no Definition for Big Bang<\/a>\u201c)<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/cosmologyscience.com\/cosblog\/iau-not-interested-in-big-bang\/\">http:\/\/cosmologyscience.com\/cosblog\/?p=66<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Your response implies there is some flaw in my article. As I&#8217;ve explained in my response ( &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/cosmologyscience.com\/cosblog\/big-bangs-inadequate-definition-disputed\/\">Big Bang\u2019s Inadequate Definition Disputed \u2013 and Vindicated<\/a>&#8221; ) while your article does a nice job of explaining the &#8220;standard model&#8221; in general and employs a lot of spectacular graphics &#8212; it fails to identify any flaws in my article and contains a number of incorrect or misleading assertions.<\/p>\n<p><u>One incorrect assertion needing a correction is the false claim that Professor Peebles&#8217; quote in my article is out of context.<\/u><\/p>\n<p>As you can read &#8211; the entire quote from Professor Peebles is provided, making it essentially impossible to be out of context. Not only is the quote exactly in context, and on point \u2013 I obtained permission to use it.<\/p>\n<p>Let me respectfully request that error be corrected.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Its been more than a month since I wrote that comment to Mr. Siegel&#8217;s blog.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Update: Mr. Siegel explained that because my note to him contained more than one link &#8211; it was probably tossed by his spam filter. (Unfortunately, there was no notice or warning of this so there was no way I could know my comment was sent to a spam capture. It would be nice to be notified of this at the time the comment was submitted.)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>1. Mr. Siegel has so far neglected to publish the above blog comment.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>(Update: Since Mr. Siegel corrected the one error I asked for &#8211; this is somewhat moot. I do note the article does not yet acknowledge or correct the other errors &#8211; particularly how his critique entirely misses the most important point &#8212; Ambiguity. That is how &#8220;currently Big Bang is too ambiguous to be a scientific hypothesis.&#8221; Instead the critique uses a <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Straw_man\">Straw man logical fallacy<\/a> to dispute a trivial issue &#8211; that there is no consensus on a Big Bang definition.)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>2. Update: As of today July 20, 2011 Mr. Siegel has corrected the original article on this point.<br \/>\n<s>While eager to critique, Mr. Siegel has failed to correct his patently false claim that Professor Peebles&#8217; quote in my article is out of context. <\/s><\/p>\n<p>In addition:<\/p>\n<p>3. Mr. Siegel never notified me in any way that he had published a critique of my article &#8211; I only found it by accident. Good ethics suggest notifying those whose works one critiques. I certainly notified Mr. Siegel of the <a href=\"http:\/\/cosmologyscience.com\/cosblog\/big-bangs-inadequate-definition-disputed\/\">article I wrote about his errors.<\/a><\/p>\n<p>I look forward to Mr. Siegel acknowledging and correcting his errors. (Update: I make errors myself, and I do appreciate his correcting the error. Not everyone is capable of this.)<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Science prides itself on its self-correcting character.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>A bonus would be his providing a filled out <a href=\"http:\/\/cosmologyscience.com\/cosblog\/references\/tools\/cosmology-hypothesis-application-form\/\">Physical Cosmology Hypothesis Application form<\/a> for <a href=\"http:\/\/cosmologyscience.com\/cosblog\/?p=798#NovelInflationClaim\">his novel version of Big Bang<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>(Update: July 20, 2011 &#8211; Today Mr. Siegel corrected his article where it had wrongly claimed my article had quoted Professor P.J.E. Peebles &#8220;out of context.&#8221;) While Ethan Siegel generally does a good job explaining mainstream cosmology&#8217;s &#8220;standard model,&#8221; he &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/cosmologyscience.com\/cosblog\/ethan-siegel-makes-science-errors-only-corrects-one\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"iawp_total_views":2,"footnotes":"","_links_to":"","_links_to_target":""},"categories":[13,4,17],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-3071","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-basic-science","category-big-bang","category-news"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/cosmologyscience.com\/cosblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3071","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/cosmologyscience.com\/cosblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/cosmologyscience.com\/cosblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/cosmologyscience.com\/cosblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/cosmologyscience.com\/cosblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=3071"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/cosmologyscience.com\/cosblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3071\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":7645,"href":"https:\/\/cosmologyscience.com\/cosblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3071\/revisions\/7645"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/cosmologyscience.com\/cosblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=3071"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/cosmologyscience.com\/cosblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=3071"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/cosmologyscience.com\/cosblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=3071"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}